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    The early X prototypes had a display that stuck up over the dash but the final one had it embedded in the dash. While some of the test drive comments sounded like it was unlikely to change I can't see the car going out with the dash/screen configured as they were at the event.
     
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      Model 3 product manager Doug Field said in one of the test ride videos that the screen as seen in the prototypes will indeed make it to production. I've also heard confirmation that other than a few tweaks the dash design is production-ready as is most of the car really. Tesla is very far along with the final design as they don't have a lot of time left before production begins. They still have tooling to do and final design tweaks and testing. Not that preorders are already above 250K as of today Elon has mentioned they're scrambling to revise the production ramp. I don't envy the amount of time those poor engineers and managers now have to put in to get things ready in time.... Not gonna see their families for a while. Ouch...

      The only bit I heard that was noticed during the reveal is the matte finish Model 3 with the Model S shaped door handles was an earlier design prototype and the production cars will have the other handle design in the sideways L shape.
       
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      I saw that video. Just imagine slamming the go pedal and someone grabbing that screen to hold on. Or the edges in a crash or any of those things. So I heard what they said but I'm not sure I believe it.
       
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        I took the screen comment in the drive videos as the actual screen (size/shape/orientation) was final, not the housing. Was also wondering if the lack of dash hinted at some heads up gauges.
         
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          I was honestly worried about the local of the display protruding away from the dash. I thought that it should be imbedded. The concern that I have is that ....what if it gets hit...and would it be a danger during an accident for me or the passenger. Then I heard the engineer that was giving the demo ride say that this is still concept until everything goes through rigorous safety testing. So we will see after all of the safety testing if it is still in the same position or if it becomes imbedded in the dash, or gets some type of surround.

          As for the gauges they are all to be embedded in the center console.
          However, I agree, it would be nice to have the speed on a heads up display on the windshield.
           
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            Why do you think they moved the screen from vertical to horizontal?
             
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            The Model 3 is gorgeous and for 35k, its a steal. Its amazing. Its revolutionary. But...the dash.... The Verge posted: "... I can't stop thinking about the dashboard, a spartan expanse of absolutely nothing broken only by a steering wheel and a plain 15-inch touchscreen on a floating mount that looks like it could've been pulled off a Lenovo workstation pilfered from an office cubicle.” Ouch! Another site called it a "golfcart dashboard".

            Its definitely going to take some getting used to.

            Elon, and then several of the drivers on the test drives seemed to indicate that removing the instrument panel was necessary in order to push the driver's position forward as part of making space for second row seating. Of course the simplicity of the dash would presumably result in significant savings too. They went horizontal so that the passenger would have equal access to the screen and so that speedometer would be in peripheral of driver.

            Like TrevP, I also heard several of the engineers indicate that they fully intend to go to production with something very much like what we saw. Perhaps safety testing will require some changes, but that would presumably result in substantial delays, so I'm torn. I frankly don't really care about not having an instrument cluster behind the steering wheel (How often do you look at a speedometer? really?) but frankly I find the aesthetics of the floating screen pretty awful.
             
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              To make it more easyer to see for The passengers, I belive one of The drivers said this
               
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              A HUD would eliminate a lot of the complaints while still keeping the space empty for the forward seat placement. I like having a lot of info in front of my eyes when I'm driving and HUDs have worked in many cars (and fighter jets) for a long time
               
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                For those current owners, what sort of phone/audio integration does the current display system have?
                I use Bluetooth for audio daily for things that are not specifically music (MLB app, audiobooks, podcasts, etc)
                 
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                Bluetooth phone/music. The car has no CD/DVD player so everything is via USB stick or via bluetooth from your phone if its not from the built in system. I mostly listen to Slacker (free internet radio with no ads) which Tesla includes for free. Will be interesting to see if things like Slacker are included and free in the 3.

                For audiobooks I use audible all the time via bluetooth. Works flawlessly and you can pause etc from the display screen.

                Album art is kind of funky with podcasts and odd music over bluetooth. From Slacker its perfect.

                Anything else you want to know?
                 
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                perfect. My current stereo has a DVD/CD slot and think it's been used maybe twice since I've had the car, so no issue there ;) As long as I can pull BT audio I'm good. And the possibility of live streaming directly to the display is something I've not been able to do since Apple switched from the 30-pin to their lightning cable.
                 
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                Theres currently no way to project anything on the Tesla screen but Elon has said that their approach to Apps going forward rather than letting people write 3rd party apps to run in the car is to allow apps from the phones be shown on the Tesla display. We'll see if that ever comes about.
                 
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                  #14 TrevP, Apr 3, 2016
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                  The software in the screen isn't final yet, they will surely have a better UI for displaying speed and autopilot status. Since it is sideways it gives them opportunities to rethink the way things are laid out.

                  I wouldn't worry too much about it, besides full autonomy is the end game so they surely have that in mind when they decided on the horizontal layout. In time we'll know more.
                   
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                  Damn I so looking forward to this car! :)
                   
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                    I liked the way Tesla has the display in the Model X prototype where it wasn't embedded into the dash. This however tickles my fancy even more! I'm a sucker for technology and modern design and Model 3 has in spades. I can't wait to have it in my driveway.
                     
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                    Just saw this on Musks twitter feed:

                    "@BValvsRacing @elonmusk "The lack of a dashboard/HUD is something that I don't think I could get used to. That's the only thing I don't like about the car."

                    ‏@elonmusk @BValvsRacing "It will make sense after part 2 of the Model 3 unveil"
                     
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                      and then "@HBL_Cosmin Wait until you see the real steering controls and system for the 3. It feels like a spaceship."
                       
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                        When should we expect to see part 2 of the unveiling?
                         
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                        Not until next year just before production begins. Tesla always has a prototype unveil then a final production car unveil close to when they start getting built. This 2 unveiling system works wonders for marketing.
                         
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