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Discussion in 'Tech Talk' started by HanSolo, May 10, 2016.

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    Do you guys really need autopilot? I am one of those people who will NEVER let a computer drive the car for me. Too many things can go wrong. If Autopilot requires you to constantly be vigilant and be ready to grab the steering wheel at a moment's notice, it is not autopilot to me. If you do a lot of highway driving, that is a possibility but I would be concerned that I might doze off or something by mistake and miss something vital. Ford has a system upcoming in their 2017 lineup that I would be much more likely to trust that will accelerate and brake for you, but requires you to do all of the steering.
     
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      #2 Blackout, May 10, 2016
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      Do I need autopilot? No, But I don't need heated seats either... It's certainly a nice to have and worth paying more to have it, same thing for autopilot...
      You can turn auto steer off while still having auto stop and go... And trust me their system is better than Mercedes which come 2nd and certainly better than what Ford or Honda can offer...
      Do you fly? Because if you do you probably relying on a pilot that will let a computer fly its plane... Down to auto landing (how many thing can go wrong letting a plane land itself) ... They are just there if something goes wrong or out of the ordinary, but the can have the entire flight after take off automated if they desired... The reaction time in the air is much slower than driving but it's still efficient... Ohhh and by the way they do intentionally doze off every once in a while...
      As for Tesla autopilot feature it evolves 1st by software updates 2nd by the driving experience from other Tesla cars in auto pilot all around the world so it constantly improving and getting better at driving... There are couple videos online where the car would avoid accident by itself or auto break when someone cut you off and stop... They legally have to tell you to stay aware and get ready to drive because the car is not listed as a full autonomous car and they want to put the responsibility on you... But when you cruze you don't sleep and if u did in the tesla the chime would let you know when something is wrong so you can take control back... There have been test done where the driver refuse to take control and the car basically pulled itself off the road and stop... What more can you ask? lol and that's just the first generation of autopilot... Wait t'il you see it with a LiDAR sensor...
      I understand you point of view but to me it is based out of fear of the unknown... Computer are slowly taking control of every aspect of our lives and sooner or letter you'll have to start trusting them...
       
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        Tesla's adaptive cruise control is this exactly. So you keep it between the lines and the cruise keeps your speed until the car you are following slows or stops, then it will keep a set distance (that you pick from a range)
         
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          Guys,
          I think we are getting way OFF TOPIC here with Auto-pilot.o_O
           
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            What else is there to talk about? We are here on a forum talking about a car that is still 2 years away or so. We can only re-hash the same information enough times before we have to talk about something else.
             
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              Thought I'd start a thread for general tech on car autonomy. Tesla is not the only car maker doing this. They're just ahead of the game in putting the hardware into production.

              Here's a video of Carnegie Mellon doing a 33 mile drive in a Cadillac SRX. No idea what hardware they're using though.

               
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                FYI, Uber hired pretty much the entire Carnegie Mellon autonomous driving department to kick-start their self-driving initiative in 2015.

                Keep that in mind if you were planning on attending CMU to study autonomous driving - the department was gutted, and I don't know if it has recovered yet.

                Carnegie Mellon Reels After Uber Lures Away Researchers
                 
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                  I thought I'd seen something come out from Mobileye in the last few weeks that they were working on something with Cadillac... looking all I can find is statements from GM earlier this year saying they are Mobileye's largest customer
                   
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                  looking forward to level 5.
                   
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                      I can see some point in the future when we are so used to autonomous cars that we lose the ability to drive.

                      I think that under certain conditions it would be wise for the AI to brake to a slower speed during the handover.
                       
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                        California paving the way for legislative changes on self-driving (tweet is in French but links to article in English ;))
                         
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                        So Mary Barra feels GM is well positioned..?! Where... in the back of the bus??
                        Mary Barra sees GM well-positioned for self-driving car era
                        http://www.seekingalpha.com/news/3229909
                        Come to think if it, I believe that Seeking Alpha must be ('secretly'...) funded by GM! ;)
                         
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                          Compared to every auto company not named Tesla, they are. I'm still upset that Nissan dropped the ball and lost its first-mover advantage.
                           
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                            Yeah, understand how you feel... You really bet on Nissan a while back! And what about the Germans, Daimler in particular? What do you think, @garsh ?
                            Have a great Pittsburgh day!
                             
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                            It sounds like the Germans (Daimler & VW) *could* leapfrog GM, based on the announcements they're making. But they're not there yet. GM is a year ahead of everyone else (not named Tesla).

                            BUT... that might be more of an advantage for LG Chem than GM - I'm not sure exactly how that partnership works, and how much of that technology LG Chem can use outside of their business with GM.
                             
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                              @garsh , does the year ahead in your mind really concern self-driving, or mainly EV...? Is this view driven by the Cadillac drive based on the Carnegie Mellon experiment per Trev's pasted video at the start of this thread...
                              Interesting to note that when I saw this on YouTube, one of the first suggested video was this one of the self-driving Mercedes SL500 in California last year... Funny as I did not even know that when I mentioned Daimler above (less confident about VW-Audi before they really show us they truly walk the talk...)

                               
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                              Oh, yeah. Sorry, I wasn't paying attention to which thread I was posting in. :oops:
                               

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