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The Model 3 will have Autopilot sensors/hardware as standard equipment...any speculation as to the option cost for autonomous drive capability?
 
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Any thoughts on if the Autopilot options for the Model 3 will be a dumbed down version, such as no auto park or summon?
 

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Any thoughts on if the Autopilot options for the Model 3 will be a dumbed down version, such as no auto park or summon?
No. Tesla has the opportunity to really differentiate themselves from mainstream brands. Musk has already stated that every Model 3 will have autopilot hardware. At that point, it makes the most sense to offer every autopilot feature available, at least as an added-cost upgrade. It will be yet another reason for the car to be extremely desirable, and the "upgrade" at that point is flipping a software switch via an over-the-air update.
 

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It's my opinion that Elon really wants Model 3 to be the first commercially-available autonomous vehicle, and by extension Model S and Model X. Tesla sees this technology, along with their battery tech, as an extreme value-add and puts them above everyone else.
 

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I have this vision of Model 3 deliveries being accomplished by programming the buyer's address into the navigation system at the factory and sending it on its way. :D
 

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I have this vision of Model 3 deliveries being accomplished by programming the buyer's address into the navigation system at the factory and sending it on its way. :D
Funny. However, until they can pass the liability for the car to the owner as the car leaves the assembly line, they'll have to define liability at some point.
 

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Funny. However, until they can pass the liability for the car to the owner as the car leaves the assembly line, they'll have to define liability at some point.
Yep. My assumption is that the manufacturers will have to accept liability for their self-driving cars. When there is an at-fault accident, it gives them an incentive to fix the problem. I know Google has gone on record as saying they would accept liability for their cars, but that's easy to do when you aren't selling them yet to the public. We'll see what Tesla and governments decide to do, but they better figure it out soon.
 

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:) Surely lawyers and bean counters must really have their say, because how would we ever survive on this planet without law suits or payments or signatures, but watching a spanking new, driverless vehicle just pull up at your home while the neighbors jaws drop would be quite priceless. "Oh, that's just my new Tesla. It affords me so much more time to smell the roses."
 

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I have this vision of Model 3 deliveries being accomplished by programming the buyer's address into the navigation system at the factory and sending it on its way. :D
Wouldn't happen. It's not yours until you do the walk around, inspect it for possible transit damage, paint defects, sign and take possession.

On that note, someone on here had a checklist...
 

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Like the idea of automous delivery, how about you send two cars, one for owner and second inspection car that has bot with 4K video camera and telepresence screen so rep can talk new owner through the walk through. Once walk through is done the bot does a high resolution final scan, hops in the second car and drives back to the factory!
 
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Charging for autonomous abilities definitely makes sense, but I can't help but feel that he is going to make full autonomous features standard across the range. It will become a Tesla USP as much as the superchargers are.

Elon was in Norway recently talking about how much safer the cars are when they are driving themselves. Put that alongside how well the cars perform in crash tests and you have a range of cars which Tesla will be able to claim are the safest cars on the road, have the least environmental impact and still manage to look cool. Thats a trifecta of pain for all the other car manufacturers, the industry will have to change to compete.
 
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Yes, machines are hopefully not designed to become intoxicated and decide erroneously that they can defy Newton's laws of motion.

History is most valuable when you learn from it and it does not hold you back with old habits that have become no longer beneficially applicable to reality.
 

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Charging for autonomous abilities definitely makes sense, but I can't help but feel that he is going to make full autonomous features standard across the range. It will become a Tesla USP as much as the superchargers are.

Elon was in Norway recently talking about how much safer the cars are when they are driving themselves. Put that alongside how well the cars perform in crash tests and you have a range of cars which Tesla will be able to claim are the safest cars on the road, have the least environmental impact and still manage to look cool. Thats a trifecta of pain for all the other car manufacturers, the industry will have to change to compete.
Maybe standard in mid or high end packages, but not likely free
 

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This may sound cynical, but I don't see autonomous driving being legal inside the next decade. At least in the US. The Government tends to move glacially slow, especially when adopting new tech. Unless there is a major push by big players with lots of money, and an opportunity for the politicians to line their pockets, nothing will change.

I just think that with the amount of independent testing necessary (with an extremely high success rate) to convince lawmakers and insurance companies that autonomous is 10X safer than human drivers (Elon's number, not mine), it will be awhile until we go autonomous.

The EU or UK may be a lot faster to adopt.