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    If I going for the basic battery model, do I have the option to upgrade later on? Just like the S over the air upgrade?
     
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    no. Elon has been asked that question in the past and responded by saying the way to do that is to trade that vehicle in and purchase another with the battery needed.
     
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      Given that the standard and long range battery cars have a substantive curb weight difference, I think that alone should confirm that the standard car is not using a software locked larger battery.

      That means you buy the larger battery up front if you want it.
       
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        I have a question about this is it really needed if the battery can go between supercharger a and b? I think I want the bigger battery but I am not seeing the point in some regard, for example, I work from home I never drive more than 80 miles a day typically most of the time its 3-4 miles, I do take maybe 4-6 road trips a year from what I have found on tesla ratios site I was able to theoretically get to all super chargers with no issues. So my question is beside peace of mind and a little faster charging is it worth it?
         
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        Yes this seems to talk more about cold weather ugh if it was 5k vs 9k this would be an easier decision.
         
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          #7 SoFlaModel3, Jul 30, 2017
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          I generally have the same opinion as you. I think range anxiety is overrated, but it's the single biggest hurdle to overcome. The ICE companies will say their cars go 400-500 miles and gas stations are everywhere, so they're fast and convenient.

          Of course with an EV, outside of road trips you will charge at home 99% of the time and never be inconvenienced with stopping at all nor touching a dirty gas pump.

          It's an education process.

          So that said, why am I opting for the larger battery then if I too only drive 75 miles daily and take just a few road trips a year.

          You will set the battery to use 80% (or so) of the maximum capacity on a daily basis, so your 220 mile range becomes 176 miles. I'm not going to say I'm an aggressive driver, but well I have a lead right foot. My current car has an EPA rated range of ~28 MPG for the driving mix that I do and my average MPG trends in the 21-22 MPG range. So let's say I get 75% of the rated range for the sake of argument. Apply that to our remaining range of 176 miles and now I'm down to 132 miles. Now I'm really sniffing my daily commute of 75 miles. What if I go out to a sporting event, concert, downtown for a dinner -- now I'm stressing and life with an EV is not as simple. Battery degradation isn't bad on a Tesla, but even slipping a little bit would just add to my nerves.

          So for all of those reasons and better performance, resale, and quicker access to the car -- I will go with the long range vehicle!
           
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          I'm tending to lean that way also. I agree with most of your points I also have a feeling I will be driving this far more as it's cheaper to operate it's also becoming the most expensive car I've ever bought maybe I Uber occasionally for extra money. But good point on the EPA numbers my car is supposed to get 24/29 I typically get 21 but also most of my driving is around town.
           
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            Doesn't a larger battery degrade less than a smaller battery due to the fact that you have more cells to spread the degregation over?
             
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            In the sense that you don't have to charge it to 100% as often, and you don't deplete it as far. Lithium Ion cells generally like to be at 50% charge - keeping them close to that level helps keep degredation at bay.
             
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              Another way to put it... If you charged your battery to 90% every time, and you discharged to 10% every time, the LR battery would see far fewer charge cycles to go the same distance. The LR battery will last a lot longer than the SR battery if the same distance is driven with both of them.
               
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