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  1. Rick59

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    Ok folks. We've pretty well exhausted our thoughts about the Model 3. Let's help Elon and figure out what big changes will be made to the Model S in the next year or so. A few ideas:
    * 2170 battery
    * HUD
    * new colours
    * higher charging rate capability
    * 120 kwh battery

    I am a "full-size" guy; my wife told me that we could look at a Model S if the seating in the Model 3 felt too small for me. (Btw I got that in writing.) I think that if it came to that, I would want to wait for the 2170 battery at least and maybe the HUD. What do you think?
     
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    I think your list is spot on but I would add - new minimalist interior similar to model 3, door pockets, more expensive detailing and materials on interior, possibility it will lose the 'stache but maybe not.
     
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    I would also add a CCS Port (in addition to, not replacing, the Tesla charger).
     
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    I would like to see Tesla eliminate the fascia "moustache" and go with a super clean look comparable to the Model 3. I wish someone with photoshop skills could share an image capturing that look.

    As for colors, I would pay extra for that shimmering silver used on one of the Model 3 Alphas.

    HUD? Yes please.

    Love the other possibilities too.
     
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    Currently, the Model S frunk's cut-line extends all of the way to the front edge of the car. Removing the mustache means that you're still going to end up with a "pencil-thin" mustache at the front. In order to redesign it correctly, Tesla will also need to change the frunk lid to end a little further back, and change the front bumper to extend up between the headlights a bit.
    [​IMG]
     
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    My list:
    • Spaceship-like controls
    • Bigger screen(s)
    • Augmented reality on Tesla Glass windshield
    • Highly improved interior styling with Porsche Mission E influence
    • Amenities such as swivel+sleeper seating that would be ideal for full autonomous driving
    • Pothole avoidance
    • Sharper body styling - more pronounced creases similar to Model 3
    • Better audio system
    • Tires that never go flat
    • Battery capable of being 80% charged via SC in 5 minutes
    • Electromagnetic transmission for enhanced acceleration at higher speeds
    • And for bragging rights, some distinct feature that would be impossible to achieve with an ICE vehicle
     
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    Do these exist?
     
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    My input:

    • Update the interior!!!!!
    • Change the wiper fluid filler location
    • Wider frunk like Model X
    • Better turning radius
    • Move front cross member back a bit for better visibility
    • Remove centre rear headrest for better visibility

    Wait, all of those things are on the Model 3. Never mind
     
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    Wouldn't this require making the wheelbase shorter, and therefore leaving less room for the battery?
     
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    Not required. You can also accomplish this by allowing the front wheels to turn more. The Mercedes/Dodge Sprinter vans have an incredibly tight turning radius despite their long wheelbases because of this.

    The Model S is hindered by the two battery modules currently stacked between the front wheels. It limits how far the wheels can be turned.
     
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    How about rain-sensing windshield wipers that work? They have a sensor that's separate from the "8 cameras." This sensor is unchanged from before AP2 hardware was introduced. Honda has had rain-sensing wipers since before the turn of the century, for the love of Mike.
    I drove through light rain today, and neither of the currently available intermittent settings was appropriate. I had to drive down the road in my US$92K automobile, manually tapping the button each time I wanted a swipe.
    What in the world is so difficult about implementing the rain-sensing wipers that they mention in their owner's manual?
     
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    Leave the gun, take the cannoli. Forget the battery, wait for the HUD if you can. (Of course, waiting for the HUD will probably get you the battery.)
     
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    Which Honda vehicle(s) had rain-sensing wipers at the turn of the century? Acuras? I know my reasonably equipped 2005 Accord certainly doesn't.
     
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    #14 Lean69, Aug 8, 2017
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    I remember seeing Fisker at NYIAS right before their demise and they had a solar roof on one of their show cars.

    That was over 5 years ago!!! why doesn't TESLA HAVE THIS YET!? To up sell to their longer range models?? comon!

    EDIT
    after a quick search it was 2012 NYIAS:
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Why not? Because a whole car covered in solar panels won't provide significant charge, let alone a car's tiny roof.

    You can lug around an air conditioner with you to keep yourself cool, but it wouldn't be very practical. ;)
     
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    • Lambo doors in front
    • Suicide doors in back
    • Spinner rims
    • Ability to slam suspension
    • Free supercharging standard on S/X
    • Better seats in back
    • AR HUD
    • CCS charging adapter
    • Tow hitch on S
    • Longer range
    • Screens on back of seats
    • Camper mode
    • Ability for V2G in emergencies
     
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    #18 Lean69, Aug 9, 2017
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    If it gets me 15-20 miles travel over 8-9 hours on the sun, it means I drive home from work for free. I'm happy with that.

    Based on modern solar panel generating about 250 watt x 8 hrs is 2kwh
    Basen on 85kwh battery having range of 265mi, you're getting 6.24 miles free.

    Why not?
     
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    From the almighty Wikipedia.

    The Karma includes as standard[26] a solar paneled roof manufactured by Asola Advanced and Automotive Solar Systems GmbH, a Quantum Technologies affiliate,[27] to aid the cabin climate control system. The solar roof is capable of generating a half kilowatt-hour a day[28] and was estimated to provide up to 4 to 5 miles (6.4–8.0 km) of additional range a week assuming continuously sunny days;[29] however, the solar panels as delivered only recharge the 12-volt lead-acid accessory battery.[30]
     
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    thats 5 year old tech. Solar is only getting more efficient. Its still not significant but ill take it.
     
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