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    Ok folks. We've pretty well exhausted our thoughts about the Model 3. Let's help Elon and figure out what big changes will be made to the Model S in the next year or so. A few ideas:
    * 2170 battery
    * HUD
    * new colours
    * higher charging rate capability
    * 120 kwh battery

    I am a "full-size" guy; my wife told me that we could look at a Model S if the seating in the Model 3 felt too small for me. (Btw I got that in writing.) I think that if it came to that, I would want to wait for the 2170 battery at least and maybe the HUD. What do you think?
     
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    I think your list is spot on but I would add - new minimalist interior similar to model 3, door pockets, more expensive detailing and materials on interior, possibility it will lose the 'stache but maybe not.
     
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      I would also add a CCS Port (in addition to, not replacing, the Tesla charger).
       
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        I would like to see Tesla eliminate the fascia "moustache" and go with a super clean look comparable to the Model 3. I wish someone with photoshop skills could share an image capturing that look.

        As for colors, I would pay extra for that shimmering silver used on one of the Model 3 Alphas.

        HUD? Yes please.

        Love the other possibilities too.
         
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          Currently, the Model S frunk's cut-line extends all of the way to the front edge of the car. Removing the mustache means that you're still going to end up with a "pencil-thin" mustache at the front. In order to redesign it correctly, Tesla will also need to change the frunk lid to end a little further back, and change the front bumper to extend up between the headlights a bit.
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            My list:
            • Spaceship-like controls
            • Bigger screen(s)
            • Augmented reality on Tesla Glass windshield
            • Highly improved interior styling with Porsche Mission E influence
            • Amenities such as swivel+sleeper seating that would be ideal for full autonomous driving
            • Pothole avoidance
            • Sharper body styling - more pronounced creases similar to Model 3
            • Better audio system
            • Tires that never go flat
            • Battery capable of being 80% charged via SC in 5 minutes
            • Electromagnetic transmission for enhanced acceleration at higher speeds
            • And for bragging rights, some distinct feature that would be impossible to achieve with an ICE vehicle
             
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              Do these exist?
               
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              My input:

              • Update the interior!!!!!
              • Change the wiper fluid filler location
              • Wider frunk like Model X
              • Better turning radius
              • Move front cross member back a bit for better visibility
              • Remove centre rear headrest for better visibility

              Wait, all of those things are on the Model 3. Never mind
               
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                Wouldn't this require making the wheelbase shorter, and therefore leaving less room for the battery?
                 
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                Not required. You can also accomplish this by allowing the front wheels to turn more. The Mercedes/Dodge Sprinter vans have an incredibly tight turning radius despite their long wheelbases because of this.

                The Model S is hindered by the two battery modules currently stacked between the front wheels. It limits how far the wheels can be turned.
                 
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                  How about rain-sensing windshield wipers that work? They have a sensor that's separate from the "8 cameras." This sensor is unchanged from before AP2 hardware was introduced. Honda has had rain-sensing wipers since before the turn of the century, for the love of Mike.
                  I drove through light rain today, and neither of the currently available intermittent settings was appropriate. I had to drive down the road in my US$92K automobile, manually tapping the button each time I wanted a swipe.
                  What in the world is so difficult about implementing the rain-sensing wipers that they mention in their owner's manual?
                   
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                    Leave the gun, take the cannoli. Forget the battery, wait for the HUD if you can. (Of course, waiting for the HUD will probably get you the battery.)
                     
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                    Which Honda vehicle(s) had rain-sensing wipers at the turn of the century? Acuras? I know my reasonably equipped 2005 Accord certainly doesn't.
                     
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                    #14 Lean69, Aug 8, 2017
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                    I remember seeing Fisker at NYIAS right before their demise and they had a solar roof on one of their show cars.

                    That was over 5 years ago!!! why doesn't TESLA HAVE THIS YET!? To up sell to their longer range models?? comon!

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                    after a quick search it was 2012 NYIAS:
                    [​IMG] [​IMG]
                     
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                    Why not? Because a whole car covered in solar panels won't provide significant charge, let alone a car's tiny roof.

                    You can lug around an air conditioner with you to keep yourself cool, but it wouldn't be very practical. ;)
                     
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                      • Lambo doors in front
                      • Suicide doors in back
                      • Spinner rims
                      • Ability to slam suspension
                      • Free supercharging standard on S/X
                      • Better seats in back
                      • AR HUD
                      • CCS charging adapter
                      • Tow hitch on S
                      • Longer range
                      • Screens on back of seats
                      • Camper mode
                      • Ability for V2G in emergencies
                       
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                      #18 Lean69, Aug 9, 2017
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                      If it gets me 15-20 miles travel over 8-9 hours on the sun, it means I drive home from work for free. I'm happy with that.

                      Based on modern solar panel generating about 250 watt x 8 hrs is 2kwh
                      Basen on 85kwh battery having range of 265mi, you're getting 6.24 miles free.

                      Why not?
                       
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                        From the almighty Wikipedia.

                        The Karma includes as standard[26] a solar paneled roof manufactured by Asola Advanced and Automotive Solar Systems GmbH, a Quantum Technologies affiliate,[27] to aid the cabin climate control system. The solar roof is capable of generating a half kilowatt-hour a day[28] and was estimated to provide up to 4 to 5 miles (6.4–8.0 km) of additional range a week assuming continuously sunny days;[29] however, the solar panels as delivered only recharge the 12-volt lead-acid accessory battery.[30]
                         
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                          thats 5 year old tech. Solar is only getting more efficient. Its still not significant but ill take it.
                           
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