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  1. Tflick

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    #1 Tflick, May 1, 2016
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    I know we all have them but was curious to see if I am on an island or anyone else had similar thoughts?

    IMO the mS is one of the top three best looking cars on the road today. However the interior, although nothing short of a technological marvel, has a few shortcomings from a subjective design perspective.
    One of those is the lever engaging the engine as it reminded me of my grandparents 1984 buick with it being an extended stick from the steering wheel. I hope m3 is different.

    I know there has been many threads, conversations and articles about the display. Knowing it is still being designed I am anticipating Tesla to provide an incredible display with it not mounted on a floating bracket. But if it is floating I hope it has the ability to be oriented landscape OR portrait based on the users preference.

    Nonetheless, I can't wait to see what is offered next year.
     
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    I am considering what we have seen so far of the interior as a purely functional space they put in to make the car drive able for the premier. I expect the final version to look almost nothing like we are seeing now (other than a horizontal main screen).

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    I had a private report come to me on the weekend from someone who had the opportunity to drive the Model 3 prototype a few days ago on during a private visit to the Gigafactory.

    This is his exact quote:

    I have a tendency to believe what Tesla engineers were saying during the test drive portion of the reveal event that they don't have a lot of time to change things, this car is going to be on time.

    To me that means other than a few tweaks here and there that the validation prototypes are pretty much what things are going to look like. Keep in mind Tesla has a history of keeping some details secret until the "second" reveal of their cars. They also have a history of changing the interiors a lot from prototypes to production cars so we'll see if they do that or not.

    All this talk of HUDs is setting ourselves up for disappointment should that not happen on the first iteration of the car. Best to keep an open mind but expect what we saw as "final" and maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised by the final product.
     
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    In regards to the instrument display (whatever it ends up being), are there any required minimums of information that MUST be displayed in some fashion on new cars? Speed would make sense but I wonder if that is even required these days.

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    Speed is pretty much a requirement but it seems people are not paying attention to the videos circulating around the internet of the test drives. Everyone is complaining there's no speedometer.

    There *is* a speedometer, just not in the usual place (front of the steering wheel). It's in the upper left corner of the main display....

    tesla-model-3-11-1.jpg

    Lots of other cars have had binnacles in the centre of the car... My daughter had a 2007 Yaris and we used to have a 2004 Nissan Quest, both of which didn't have the gauges in the usual place. The Model 3 is just a variation on the placement
     
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    @ TrevP - you are very correct in the statement about the location of binnacles and information being presented.

    Knowing Tesla and their ability to provide a great looking interior, with a couple design shortages, I have high expectations, although your point is noted as well. I have had several conversations with people regarding the general interior and 90% of the discussions evolves around the design, or lack thereof, of the screen. B/c it is such a prominent feature of the interior and a large staple of the brand I am holding out hope Tesla's final design is a more integrated screen in some fashion vs the prototype shown.

    Out of curiosity - did anyone feel the lever to engage the engine was weak in the mS?
     
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    Given that Elon said the dash was pushed forward the screen has to remain close to be interacted with from the driver and passenger thus it really has to be on some sort of pedestal or arm. Integrating it into the current dash would make it completely out of reach.

    As for the levers on the Model S, I can't speak of it but if you look at Model 3 interior pictures they have completely new switch gear in this car.

    dashborad.jpg wheel.jpg
     
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    After watching the informative MT video has brought additional questions/thoughts and excitement.
    What might be the reason for the front quarter panel and drive door color difference? It appeared to be in an accident and the front driver quarter panel was poorly painted seen against the driver door.

    I am not a fan of the door handles -- out of the three designs this one is the most cumbersome. Understanding cuts had to be made for cost and aerodynamics are critical, but feel it will be difficult to be carrying anything, when the entire hand is not available, and try opening the door. I am curious to see if they will address climates outside CA regarding ice build-up.

    The child seat appeared fairly tight but am glad they showed it. Wish they could have demonstrated how the trunk works.

    Link to video mentioned:
     
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    Not sure if pre-conditioning will melt ice off handles, but does a good job on the mirrors, etc.
     
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    What did we do before remotes for our TVs.

    Put the bag down and open the door.

    In Canada when the door freezes it is the mechanism on the inside of the door not the handle. Southeners think that our cars are covered in an inch of ice when we wake up every morning.

    ;)
     
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    Door handles could easily be heated to prevent ice build-up. It is a problem in winter in colder climates and Tesla has learned a lot from the retracting door handles on Model S. I'm sure they've thought of a solution, we just don't know what it is yet.
     
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    and that you smell of maple syrup :p
     
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    I get it -- my remark is minutia in the grand scheme of things and although your door handle comment is likely......that's not the point. Work smarter not harder ;)

    Ice build-up is a problem and does happens often.
    I am skeptical of the demonstrated solution but will stay optimistic seeing how tesla delivers functional and beautiful designs 94% of the time.
     
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    LOL.
     
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    Hi Trev
    I have a comment on the exterior look of the Model 3. It is a good looking vehicle, but I think it could be improved with a simple detail on the front where a grill is normally present.
    I get the vehicle doesn't need a grill, but what about a simple Tesla decal at the top of that flat front piece. This could be very similar to an upgraded Model S which looks amazing.
    Thanks for a great site.
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    And that you turn every thread into a discussion of cold weather. :eek:
     
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    Elon mentioned they were still tweaking a few things on the car. Wouldn't surprise me theybwoukdnalter the front to mimic the current Model S/X look.

    In Canada temperature in winter is always quoted as "minus something with the wind chill". Makes it seem worse than it is and keeps the riff raff from moving here ;)
     
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    ...and that every sentence ends in a question...ehhh?

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    ...and that your football fields have TWO 50 yard lines. What's up with that?
    Living in the heart of the SEC I find that to be totally unacceptable...just sayin'.

    Dan
     
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    Very effective system, that. :)
     

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