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    #1 Tom Bodera, Nov 8, 2016
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    We all new about the vehicle incentive of up to $14,000 (potential for Model 3, $3000 for S and X) + $1000 for charger at home.

    But look at this Rumor.

    "Queen’s Park is negotiating with Ottawa to get the 13-per-cent harmonized sales tax removed from electric cars by 2018."
    https://www.thestar.com/news/queens...-car-plan-with-expanded-charging-network.html


    That would be another 13% off. So quick math:

    $35,000 USD @1.33 = $46,550 CAD

    $46,550 + $1300 Delivery + $100 A/c Tax = $47,950 CAD

    $47,950 + 0% HST (8%PST + 5% GST) =$47,950 CAD

    $47,950 - $14,000 = $33,950 CAD for a base Model 3 in Ontario? Yes Please.
     
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    Yeah this has been talked about for awhile. I believe where it stands is we won't have to pay any provincial sales tax and they're working on the federal side.
     
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    Uh?! Jaw dropping European?!?!
    Wish I had the emoticon!! :p
     
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    Yep. Pretty much. Also don't forget: 4 years of free residential charging and green plates with single occupant HOV lane access.

    Pretty sweet deal if it all happens.
     
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    I believe Ontario EV incentives are probably the best in the world aren't they? 14k, free charging, green plates, (no/reduced)tax, 1k towards at home charger.
     
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      Yes, they are... Interested to know more about what has made Ontario legislative authorities so supportive to stimulating this accelerated transformation of private transportation habits..?
      In any case, good for you, enjoy it for as long as you can!! :)
       
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      Ontario has always been accepting of Green Energy, I.e. the solar incentives of Microfit. While we are accepting and people put things in motion we struggle in continuing to make it work. Microfit 1 worked too well so it was revised over a year. (during this year no permits were available and people that trained and setup businesses for this purpose......)

      I am just bringing balance, Ontario has had it's good's and bad's, the important things is to see the good and jump on it. Spread the word and hope that it is received with overwhelming success. Even if a year later it is halted due to overwhelming success.

      If I could sum up Microfit 1 for non Ontario folks.

      1. Solar incentive program. Apply and recieve a permit for installation. You have to buy and pay for everything up front.
      2. Sell everything generated at $0.802/kwh for a 20 year fixed contract.
      3. Buy all the electricity back for your home at market cost. $0.18/kwh worst case 2016 off peak is $0.087/kwh. In 2011 it was only $0.11/kwh.

      Simple math. 0.802/0.18 = 4.45x
       
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        Buy high, sell low, and we wonder why our deficit is so high.
         
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          It is worse than Buy High sell low. That would be true if we sold what we didn't use. But we sell all and buy all.

          The second point to this is if our rate is $0.18/kwh , what is our hydro rate going to be in 5 years if they have been paying $0.802 for 5 years already of the 20 year contract.

          The point of this discussion is that Ontario does great things for people who pay attention, have guts and are willing to take a little risk (very little) to make a change. Get your pre-orders in people!!!!!!!!!!
           
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            Talk to Tesla today, as of today we still have to pay full HST. Both GST and PST is still on all EV sales.
             
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            I've been wanting to get in touch with the folks responsible in the Gov to see where things are with the tax situation. They said they would have it in place by spring of 2017 for the provincial portion of the HST to be eliminated and possibly all of the HST eliminated by 2018.

            Edit: seems they're looking to have it implemented by 2018 according to the website. Timing might be good for us in Canada if the 3 arrives in 2018. Sure I'd like to have one in 2017 if it comes to that.
             
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            I'd be willing to wait to order my 3 in 2018 instead of 2017, assuming they sent me the email to invite me to configure, if it means saving on the taxes as well as the incentives. The savings would be quite substantial, $5850 HST and $14000 in incentive. That would bring the base cost down to $32000 CDN, that would leave me room to add options for sure.
             
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            The $14000 may not last long after the next provincial election. I really doubt Wynne will get re elected, fingers crossed that Horvath can step up but PC are probably more likely. Have to pay attention to what kind of promises they are making in the run up to the election, energy prices will be a hot topic as well as renewable and green projects.
             
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              Hey just trying to help Trevor make this site be the go-to place for Model 3 info!
               
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                I still do not like that you can only apply for the home charging system after you have received your rebate for the car. You should be able to have everything ready for the car before it arrives. I know that you can apply for the car rebate as soon as you order the car but it would be so much easier to order the charger and get its rebate earlier.
                 
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                This is great news, not that it was going to change for the Model 3 as most M3's should be under the previous $75K CAD level and receive full rebate amounts. Too bad the Model S is still unreachable price wise, $80+K even with the incentive - sorry. I'll wait for my Model 3!
                 
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                  Sorry Ken the update removes both the 30% cap on MSRP and allows the full 14000 for MSRP up to 150000. Many S and X buyers would be able to take advantage of the rebate now. There is still a hard cap at 150000 there is no rebate.
                   
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                  Yup good news for us Canucks. $14K CAD is a nice incentive that's for sure! :)
                   
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