Getting a Nissan Leaf!

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  1. BigBri

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    Surprised myself lol. Fiance decided to book us in for a test drive as hes been wanting to get his own car. Took it out and loved it. I'm not a fan of the aesthetic but its grown on me. More important then aesthetic is I'm not buying gas anymore. I've been driving a 2012 Sonata for 2 years and it guzzles gas.

    I thought we'd just take a test drive and drop the keys off but decided to look through everything with the sales rep. We were able to lease the mid range SV package for $100 a month after getting 8k for our trade. Government incentives help a ton and they knocked off about 3-4 grand. We're getting the 360 camera and upgraded sound for nothing. Mostly as we wanted the base model but they're impossible to find.

    So we'll still be getting a Model3 for sure but this saves us from trading in the Sonata to Tesla or selling it privately and can start racking up the electric miles now. Once my Model3 is ready the fiance will drive it and we'll both be happy.
     
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    Congrats! :rocket:
    The most important thing is everything you write in your last paragraph, down to the very last words! :)
     
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    Congrats , you won't regret it ,
    Many electric miles with smiles
     
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    Welllllll sad to say this isn't going to work out. Never ran into this before but the dealer can't get me a Leaf. Every dealer in Ontario and Quebec is refusing to let them go as they want to sell/lease it themselves. They're offering me the 2018 at dealer cost but thats usually only 2-3% so meh not really worth it. We'd be close to the Model3 at that timeframe anyway, another few months wouldn't be that hard to wait.

    So we could go to these dealers and try and play ball but I have a feeling they'll just hose me on the tradein. They'll know we drove 300-400km and won't want to leave empty handed.
     
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    Ford is having a promo on their Focus Electric here in the states, $12k discount. Maybe they have something similar in Canada.

    Note: you might not see the discount until you configure the car on the Ford website.
     
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    Unfortunately the FFE is sold out for the foreseeable future in Canada, same as the e-Golf, can't get them till 2018.
     
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    This reminds me of that time that I tried to buy a Tesla Model S. They didn't have exactly what I wanted at my dealer, but they did at another. But that dealer refused to send the car over.

    Oh wait. No, that never happens with Tesla.

    Dealerships suck.
     
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    More Nissan dealership nonsense.
    http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=499835#p499835

    I called Nissan leaf HQ to ask if my used Nissan leaf battery had been replaced by previous owners, just to get an idea of the cars history.

    He stated he had good news and better news. Good news being no it hadn't been replaced. Better news was it had an open coupon for a free battery replacement. He said a select few Leafs that were sold in hot climates got this coupon for a battery replacement.
    I called my local dealer like he advised me, they knew nothing about it. They said because my battery is at 75% SOH they wouldn't even look up my case number that Nissan HQ gave me.

    So, Nissan corp is telling this guy that they'll give him a free replacement battery. The dealership doesn't even want to look up the info, let alone perform the work.

    Dealerships suck.
     
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    If you're looking at "in inventory" Leafs, some dealers list their inventory. I'm from Ottawa and I ended up buying a Leaf from Ajax because the local dealers here didn't have what I wanted and they had the same issue you rant into. I did everything over email including signatures, etc. then took train out to close the deal and drive away (took 25 mins). Everything was as expected and all's well. Seeing as you're in Toronto:

    Ajax Nissan (dealt with Nawed Sharif):
    http://www.ajaxnissan.com/new-inven...acted=inventory-listing1-facet-anchor-model-5

    Scarborough Nissan:
    http://scarboroughnissan.com/inventory/?condition=new&make=Nissan&model=LEAF

    Avenue Road Nissan:
    http://www.avenuenissan.com/new-inv...acted=inventory-listing1-facet-anchor-model-6

    High Park Nissan:
    http://www.highparknissan.com/new-i...acted=inventory-listing1-facet-anchor-model-6

    Oakville Nissan:
    https://www.oakvillenissan.com/inve...ype=New&page_length=20&make=Nissan&model=Leaf

    Hope this helps and good luck.

    Yep, We're still getting a Model 3 whenever we're given the chance to configure it. The Leaf is our first step into EVs and it won't be our last.
     
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    Sooo good news and bad.

    Good: We have a Leaf

    Bad: It's dead

    We'll start with the good. Found one in Peterborough. This one was the base model, didn't need gadgets anyway. Kinda crazy how you pay essentially retail price for gadgets on a car you don't own. Anyway closed the deal quickly and went to get it yesterday. We needed a charge somewhere along the way so stopped after about 50km at a Chademo. The payment screen was locked up. Drove to Belleville to charge. Plugged in and walked away. Came back, wasn't charging. Read the manual and followed it step for step (it's brainless stuff like turn the car off, put on the parking break etc). Plugged the charger in and it was charging. So left it for 30 mins and then drove back to Kingston. Decided to try the charger around the corner. Couldn't get it to work. Tried another one at a hotel, couldn't get it to work. Tried one at a dealership, it worked but was only a 3.3. So we drove around a bit and went to head home. Stopped at the BMW dealer and it wouldn't work.

    So we hobbled home. It said we had 20km left and our house was about 4 away but now it won't even give us a reading. Plugging into a 120V doesn't work either. Same behavior. Car beeps when plugged in, blue lights don't come on. Called Nissan support and went thru everything and he came to the same conclusion. It's the car or its the EVSE. I'm saying its the car due to all the problems. So I'm hoping that we can get the car towed to the Kingston dealer to be checked out. Even more so I hope we get some sort of a loaner car as I traded in our working car for a brand new one that doesn't work. Had to take the day off from work and all that. Fun fun!
     
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    Wow, that is a terrible nuisance... feel for you.

    On a side note, I'm amazed you guys want a Leaf so bad in its last year of life before the new model btw and after all we've read from @garsh about the range disaster after some years of use... :confused:
     
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    Wow, this is sad and depressing. Having had a LEAF for 3 years, I wonder if the 12V battery tests OK, or if you checked for debris in the evse plug and socket.

    Hope everything is resolved quickly and to your satisfaction!
     
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    Ouch.

    I tend to charge at the same places over and over again, so I'm familiar with their availability. But yes, one of the huge problems with driving electric in unfamiliar territory is that you don't know if you can count on the EVSE to be operational, or to be blocked by other vehicles, etc.

    Yet another reason why I'm looking forward to owning a Tesla. The in-car navigation will know the state of the supercharger station where I'm headed.
     
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    It's an 80 dollar a month lease lol. It'll almost pay for a full year of service before even getting the Model3. The 2018 will end up being a lot more expensive so waiting for it didn't make sense. I leave town a few times a year at most, easy to rent a $20 a day Kia or whatever. It'll be the fiances car once we get the Model3.

    So the update is we're getting into service at 2pm. Sales guy seems to think its the 120V EVSE thats the issue but I'm more thinking its the car considering the issues we had charging. Sure stations are unreliable but in looking at PlugShare checkins I couldn't find a single complaint for 3 of the chargers we used.

    We should have about 12km of range left. Vehicle says ---- for # of KM left, probably does that so you actually charge and not squeeze out a few more km. Dealership is 3km away so we're just going to risk it. Roads going there have wide shoulders if we needed to call for the roadside assistance which is luckily free.
     
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    Yeah checked all that, wish it was that easy! The instrument panel works normally so I think the 12v is fine. For a 1 day old car I expect them to bend over backwards to help us out as this shouldn't have happened.
     
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    Nice! Sounds like a good deal.
    Having found myself in similar situation several times before, I can tell you to keep these things in mind:
    • The Leaf's most efficient speed is 12mph (19kph in canukistan), if you really need to eek out every last bit of range.
    • Once the little turtle symbol appears on the dash (along with the message "Motor power is limited"), you only have about a half-mile before the car shuts off. Give up in that case. See the pic:
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    Weird things happen to the Leaf whenever the little 12v lead-acid battery is weak. Most things continue to function, but other strange failures occur. I wouldn't rule it out yet.
     
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    Appreciate the help! Luckily no turtle yet.. just the dashes. Good to know I can go until the turtle comes on and get a tow from there if needed. I was going to try removing the negative terminal on the battery to do a quick reset but don't have the right wrench. I'm seeing it as 'not my problem' on day2 of ownership lol.
     
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    Good luck! Wishing you the best!

    Got it. :)
     
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    My kids were always urging me to drive the LEAF around until turtle mode. "Go to turtle mode! Go to turtle mode!" They'd say. Sheesh. o_O
     
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    Nice! Welcome to EV world :)
    I've been driving my Leaf for 3.5 years now and have loved having a garage that doesn't stink of fuel etc.
     
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