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GROUP BUY: Blackvue / Thinkware Dashcam gauging interest

Discussion in 'Tech Talk' started by MelindaV, Jul 31, 2017.

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How likely are you to buy a dashcam as part of a M3OC groupbuy?

Poll closed Aug 30, 2017.
  1. Absolutely, yes! Spending this much on a car, I'm not leaving it unattended for a second!

    33.1%
  2. Probably, I want to see where my car has gone

    14.2%
  3. Maybe, if someone convinces me it is a good idea

    11.5%
  4. Maybe, if it is a good deal over the retail price

    21.9%
  5. It would have to be significantly less than the retail price

    9.6%
  6. Not interested, it is just not my thing

    5.4%
  7. Already have a dashcam & will relocate to the Model 3

    4.2%
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    #1 MelindaV, Jul 31, 2017
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    https://model3ownersclub.com/threads/dash-camera-conversations.757/We talked about this about a year ago, and now that Tesla has delivered the first cars and some members are expecting to have their car delivered as soon as this fall, I've reached out to a few vendors to get info on a group buy for either the Blackvue DR650S-2CH, Thinkware F770 or the more economy Blackvue DR490-2CH.

    EDIT: Now with the DR750S-2CH officially released, will be going with this model

    Before they can give us any useful info on pricing, we need to give them some ballpark number of members interested, so please vote above your likelihood of purchasing a dashcam. I think we will be able to have a couple options (IE the three models listed above) to pick from, and all payments and shipping would be done directly thru the vendors site once our groupbuy is established.

    voting will be open for the next 30 days, so click away and feel free to add your comments as well...

    Please keep this thread on the topic of these three dashcams and interest or questions regarding the groupbuy.
    If you would like to share your experience with or suggest another camera, please do so in the main dashcam conversation thread. https://model3ownersclub.com/threads/dash-camera-conversations.757/
     
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      Is it strange that I have a fear that leaving a dash cam in the car has an opposite effect? It can draw attention and lead to a break in. Is that crazy thinking?

      I have a hardwired radar detector in my current car and I am contemplating leaving it out of the Tesla because I want the windshield to remain clean!
       
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      I'd worry less about a break-in than being hit

      ETA: and I work in a shit part of town that our parking lot comes with a consistent urine odor (at best), a couple resident street guys and random others passing thru
       
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        Ahh ... good point there!

        I think this has come up before (not sure on the answer). The car has cameras all around. Are we able to obtain footage from Tesla as part of a crash investigation?
         
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        not unless it's defending AP from what I've seen
         
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          Makes sense -- carry on. Still a pass for me, but appreciate you putting this out there to help everyone drive cost down!!
           
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          In a nutshell what's the big difference between the two of them, besides price?
           
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          between the three ;) ...
          the Blackvue DR650 and Thinkware 770 are pretty comparable in how they function (OTA app) and overall user reviews. The Thinkware has 1080 for both cameras while the Blackvue has 1080 on the front and 720 rear. From the comparison reviews I've watched of the two, it looks like the Blackvue is a much cleaner/crisper (both front and rear) view than the Thinkware that to my eye gets blown out a lot. Thinkware's front camera housing is also larger than the Blackvue's. Thinkware also has a quirk many reviews have noted that the rear camera's logo is printed upside down so most people accidentally installed it upside down and the software does not autocorrect or give you the option to flip the orientation.
          The third is Blackvue's 490, which is new and has updated camera sensors - 1080 both front and back, but is not OTA, so to view you need to remove the card.
          for memory cards, both Blackvue model's max card size is 128gb while Thinkware's is 64gb
           
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            Thanks for breaking it down so clearly. When do you think the group would buy?
             
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            figured we would see what we get for interest and go from there, but probably when the voting for this expires, so a month from now +/-.
             
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            Sounds good
             
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            Interested! One of the things on to-do list is to research dashcams for potential purchase. never had one and know little about them. Hope to find one that is not too clunky or noticeable and blends nicely with the minimal interior.
             
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              A lot of Tesla owners use the Blackvue so I trust a good product. Hopefully as a group we can get a price break.
               
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                As a BlackVue DR650S owner, I can tell you that the blackvue does have a setting that allows you to flip the rear camera image in case you install it upside down.

                Ask me how I know this. :oops:
                 
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                  FWIW my Thinkware (F750) is currently on it’s 3rd memory card in 18 months (they get corrupted and will not format).

                  The Blackview cameras in SWMBOs car however are still on their original cards after 3 years.

                  I assume shipping to the UK will be too costly?
                  (I have a supplier who has done me deals previously, but everyone like a deal!)
                   
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                    Your Tesla is already covered with 8+ cameras. Why add two more?
                    Tesla just needs to push a software update that lets you save 360-degree video to a USB stick!

                     
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                      Because to date, tesla has not shared their camera data with customers. Maybe sometime in the future they will, but until then, a dashcam is a pretty low cost option. If you get backed into while in a parking lot a dashcam can catch what happened, let alone if you are in a wreck and need to prove fault.
                      Current owners have not been able to get any camera information out of Tesla to this point (or if there are any cases, they are the exception not the norm) unless Tesla is trying to prove a wreck was not the fault of AP.

                      Part of the issue with permitting owners full access to all the camera data is 1) the data is raw and not a format most of the public could/would deal with 2) it would put Tesla liable for breaking surveillance laws, which are different from country to country, state to state, city to city.
                       
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                        I'm a big proponent of dash cams, but due to where I work, I cannot have one installed in my car. It's too much of a hassle to install and uninstall the camera every day.
                         
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                          1. Re: install, always remember that given a 50/50 chance we will get it wrong 9 out of 10 times.

                          2. Also a DR650S dual cam owner and will move to my M3 when I get it!
                           
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                            Government job?
                             
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