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Discussion in 'Charging and Infrastructure' started by Quicksilver, Aug 31, 2017.

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    My local RaceTrac gas station looked like this today...

    I drove home for lunch and passed by two gas stations that had very long lines. The news is saying things may be back to normal around Sunday - Harvey did a job on the refineries in Texas. It will be an interesting holiday weekend. We are not planning to travel but I am sure many people typically travel this holiday weekend.

    It's scenes like these that I appreciate driving electric!


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      Yep, this doesn't happen when everyone can just "gas up" overnight at home. :)
       
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        Wow that's intense! I know you're probably not near the disaster area, but stay safe anyway! :) I guess ICE drivers will be pointing and laughing at us when the electrical grid goes out. I guess most of you probably have solar though.
         
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          In large part of the affected area, power is not present. While these guys maybe lined up for gas, if EV with no power, then there isn't a line to form much less a source to charge.

          Solar panels (I have them for the house) are rendered useless, if the power is out in your grid. The only way to have power with Solar in time of outage is to be off the grid with batteries and generators....
           
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            If there's no power, then the gas pumps won't be working either.
             
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              Of course extended power outages after a storm will challenge those of us without solar. Hopefully the public charging infrastructure mixed with high range EVs mitigated that for us after disaster.
               
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              Our home was hit with an outage about a month ago from around 9PM to Noon the following day because of a severe storm. When I came home from work and plugged my car in to top off, it was charging fine until the power went out. Overnight outages will typically not be an issue for me unless I came home with a depleted battery or if we have multi-day outages which is rare in the Dallas area.
               
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                I agree --- I have enough range on the long range battery for 4 days of commuting!

                When I say extended I mean no power for a week after a storm, but at that point there are other things to worry about.
                 
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                The reason solar cannot continue to power the house it sits on is because the logic of feeding power back to the grid, when more power is generated than used at any given time.

                If the power is shut off and being worked on, then solar feeds the grid, then its a uncontrolled source of power.; hence, the controller logic shuts down power being used at all. Since I don't have a battery pack, I don't know if it continues to charge the batteries during power outage but I doubt it. If you're off the grid, then its a different story.

                It would be great, if we can get a smarter inverter system that can continue to power the house, during outage and even further, if you can use your EV charge as a source of power during emergency for the house.

                If people signed up to feed the grid off their EV, in time of need to avoid/lessen rolling blackouts, imagine how helpful that would be as EV scales up in numbers. Clearly, you need to retain enough power to get home/destination thereafter and some financial offset for doing so.
                 
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                Based on what I've read, I believe you're right. I think you need to have a house battery pack for you to be able to utilize the solar power when on the grid. When I finally get solar for my house, I'm going to seriously consider a battery pack.
                 
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                The Powerwall does this. It sits between your solar and the grid, and can generate the sine wave necessary to keep your solar array up and charging even with no grid.

                 
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                  I'd seen some headlines earlier this week projecting gas prices would be going up. Hopefully (logically?), since all my local fuel comes from the west coast, it's not impacted, but gas stations are opportunistic where $ is involved.
                   
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                    Gas prices have definitely spiked:

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                    I'm rooting for prices to go back into the $3.50 range, which would be a boom for TSLA stock!
                    But really this spike is nothing in the long run:

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                      I regularly pay well over $3.00/gal up here, so seeing the national average "up" to $2.50 doesn't really get much sympathy from me ;)
                      (yesterday I filled up using $.40/gal grocery store gas credits and still was at $2.95 and thinking "Weeehee! it's less than $3!)
                       
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                        We regularly have enough grocery store gas credits to cover the complete cost of gas. The store limits you to 30 gallons at that price, so I invested in several 5 gallon gas cans to maximize that perk. I think I've only actually paid for gas a handful of times over the past 3-4 years. I'm kind of going to miss that perk when I get rid of the minivan.

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                        I don't buy a ton of groceries, so don't have a ton each month, but was wondering what to do with them next year...
                         
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                        #17 SoFlaModel3, Sep 1, 2017
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                        Now we just need to get my wife an EV as well :)
                         
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                        Elon has tweeted recently that all Superchargers will eventually be solar powered and grid independent. Click for Engadget article.
                         
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                        Here's the quote:

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