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Model S Crashes Itself into a Parked Truck

Discussion in 'News from Electrek.co' started by minogully, May 11, 2016.

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    Here's the article:
    http://hothardware.com/news/model-s-owner-claims-ev-magically-started-crashed-into-trailer

    Apparently, Tesla said that the owner put the car into "summons" mode.

    My guess is that he accidentally then summoned the car, or perhaps he was attempting to show off the feature.

    I do think that Tesla overlooked something here, which is having sensors that detect low hanging objects.

    Thoughts anyone?

    Here's another article on the same event:
    http://www.ksl.com/?sid=39727592&nid=148
     
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    Ah yes. As we all know, the IDIOT detector has not yet been invented.

    Mostly because idiots can be so damned clever.
     
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    Not accidental, if the car's logs are to be believed.

    Driver whose Tesla Model S crashed while using Summon was breaking all the rules

    That said, this sort of feature really should be foolproof enough to not hit a parked trailer. I hope Tesla takes this incident seriously, and takes this opportunity to fix the problem.
     
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    Here's a photo.
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    It looks like the trailer was missing a Mansfield Bar. So that's got to be an illegal trailer. But it does show that Tesla's summon system won't detect things at windshield height. They need to update their summon software.
     
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    Does anyone know if just a software update would prevent this? It's my understanding that the proximity sensors are low to the ground. Maybe they just aren't able to detect things so high?

    I bet the next Model S will come with more sensors placed up high.
     
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    for that matter, if you were following this truck on the freeway, the sensors would not detect it until the tires /mudflaps. Maybe there is a red flag hanging down up against the windshield, but it looks like it is an illegal trailer (at least around here)... but still think the 'driver' is to blame.
     
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    The Teslas also have a forward-facing camera near the rear-view mirror. That should certainly be able to detect this. Updating the software to use the camera for this purpose should hopefully be possible.
     
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    Why do these thinks happen when Tesla is getting hammered by the media. It is like someone is throwing gas on a fire and hoping the house burns down.

    It was the same with the car fires, they all happened within a very short period of time.

    Well, I guess the new kid on the block has to take his lumps and keep on moving.
     
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    How many ICE cars crashed into the back of a truck, even when someone was driving?
     
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    That's comparing apples to oranges. You should be asking: How many non-Tesla self-driving cars crashed into the back of a truck?

    This issue is not EV vs. ICE. It's just about a self-driving cars period.

    Sure lots of people crash their cars into things, but drivers are ok with that risk because they feel they're in control and have the potential to avoid it. But if your very expensive car decides on its own to suddenly cause itself the need for a whole bunch of expensive repairs, that's definitely a problem.

    For this particular scenario, though, I'm still convinced that it was the driver's fault, not Tesla's self-driving software. Though I do feel that there are probably some updates to the software that could have prevented this situation and if so Tesla should definitely do these updates.
     
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    This stuff is all new to the public and the media knows it sells ads and clicks. Plus, anything Tesla related makes headlines. Try not to read too much into it as the media cycle these days is about a week then it gets forgotten, onto the next headline.
     
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    My point, which seems to be missed, is that this is MADE news because it is a Tesla. An attack on EVs by association. How many Volvos had done this as well. I have seen a video where a self driving Volvo ran into some people.

    There are a lot people, in the media as well, who like to discredit technological advances because they threaten the establishment.
     
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    To explain what happened and who's responsible for that and what Tesla said I find this video helpful
    Play Video from 11:44-13.00
     
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    This Tesla user demonstrated how can be happen to crash the Tesla with activities summon in his car. I didn't know you can do that double press the park button and ... Just watch the [video]
     
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