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    #1 SoFlaModel3, Jul 1, 2017
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      Well done on beating the bot, @SoFlaModel3 ! :D
      On the substance, those are substantial gains, with actually very little extra acceleration power for the MS 100D vs. the 75 kWh battery version (of course, the main selling feature of the former remains its extended range of 335 miles, on the ETA cycle!)
       
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        Thanks ;)
         
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          I'm hoping that's the reason, but not expecting it to be the case.
           
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          Way to pressure the competition!
           
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          I think it has to be a factor. We already know the Model 3 is in the 5s on 0-60. The S needed separation.
           
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            no model 3 will be faster than entry level model s.
            seems to be the clear message here
             
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              I disagree there. I would anticipate a ludicrous Model 3 to be faster than a base Model S.

              Think BMW M3 and BMW base 7 series.

              The need for separation is at the regular trim levels for Model 3.
               
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                Ya but the 5-6 sec will be with the lowest battery pack 55-60 Kw/h I guess.
                 
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                  I'm am very curious to see where the Model 3 75 comes in.

                  My initial sense was that I didn't need it because I don't need the added range, but I'm getting it because I want the car asap.
                   
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                    the performance model 3... say a P75DL could be faster than the P100D tho.
                     
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                    Elon has pretty much guaranteed that this won't be the case.
                     
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                      #13 Jean Théoret, Jul 2, 2017
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                      Apart of paying moore for the 75Kw/h, I suppose, at the end of the day, you'll enjoy having the 75Kw/h bat. pack.:)
                       
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                        I took that as the S P100D would beat a 3 P75D, but @silvermike’s point I think was would a 3 P75D beat a S P100D.
                        That does seem reasonable given the P100D has a 4.1 0 to 60 and the P100D is at 2.5.
                         
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                          That was too subtle, @MelindaV. It took two readings before I noticed the underlines. ;)

                          It is no longer possible to order a new Model S "P" that does NOT have ludicrous.

                          EDIT: the latest updates to the non-performance 100D have it reaching 0-60 in 4.2s. Pretty neat that a new 100D is just about as quick as an old P100D.
                           
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                          oh- you are right... the 4.1 second is the 100D, not P100D.
                           
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                          If Model S 75D after the new update does 0 - 60 in 4.2s

                          I would imagine smaller / lighter Model 3 75D would be better or equal to 4.2s or atleast less than 4.6s

                          and the Model 3 P75DL around 2.8s - 3.2s
                           
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                            Model 3 may be heavier than Model S. We don't know the ratio of aluminum to steel at this point.
                             
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                            #19 samson, Jul 19, 2017
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                            True, But I think that the sheer volume of Model S would outweigh less steel usage% in model 3.

                            we hopefully would know in a week, finger crossed.
                             
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                            Fellow Floridian, you're killing me dude.
                            Model 3 will weigh about 20% less than Model S per Elon Musk. I've gone over this in detail over at TMC.
                            The Model 3 will have similar weight to it's competitive target, BMW 3 series. That means a 75D should weigh roughly 3750 pounds (80% of MS 75D) and a base model 60 around 3500 pounds.
                             
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