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    Beginning in Chicago and Boston
     
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      Tesla just posted a blog about their new urban Superchargers going into cities.

      https://www.tesla.com/en_CA/blog/supercharging-cities

      Some interesting information:

      72kW of dedicated charge per car (no longer shared)
      Same pricing as current pay-per-use credit program
       
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        Interesting.
         
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          The supercharger map previously showed one future supercharger in Boston (the Tesla store was listed as a destination charger).
          This morning, the map now shows six future superchargers within about two miles of downtown, and one active supercharger at the Tesla store in the Prudential.
          So I'm curious if this was secretly installed in the underground garage and if it is the new charger format from Tesla's photo. I'm tempted to try to find it.

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          I'm not familiar with Boston but if that picture was taken there I'd suggest you first visit the local Tesla showroom on Boylston in the mall. Given other cars in the background I think this is installed in a Tesla parking location where the mall is located. Looks a lot like how the setup is in Toronto in the underground parking garage.
           
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          Yes, it's at the same address as the Tesla store building. Of course that is a monstrous multi-level underground garage, so it's not going to be easy to find unless I get a test drive.
           
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          I'm sure you can find it. Look for parked Teslas and white painted poles with red markings
           
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          #8 JWardell, Sep 11, 2017
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          Back from my little luchtime adventure, I found them! I did have to walk through two different lots and a few different levels. They are on the rear lot, first level (P1 Red), right next to the Chargepoint chargers.
          The smaller size sure makes a lot more sense for tight parking lots. Three were already in use.
          I waited till lunchtime to go over there, but rest assured once I get any word they have a Model 3 I will be there instantly!

           
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            AWESOME!!!


            The other charger listed at that address prior to this morning is the Destination Charger for guests of the Sheraton (which also uses that same massive parking garage).



            Another thing to note, there are other chargers in the Boston area that are newly listed as of today as well, notably Waltham and Burlington...both are high concentration areas of the types of places Tesla owners would work, shop, or eat, and probably live as well.

            Hopefully people use them respectfully (so as not to rack up idle fees) and this helps reduce any fears of Supercharger congestion in and around the city.
             
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              If you click on the grey future superchargers, they say End of 2018. The previous grey superchargers still say End of 2017. I'm spotting a deluge of 2018 chargers, especially further up into Maine as well as more on my usual trip to CT. Maybe I don't need that long range 3 afterall.
               
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              I'm all-in for instant gratification. I'm still going for First Production. I've been saving for it for over 3 years, and the savings plan was pretty aggressive. I could actually afford to wait out the Performance/Dual Motor config....

              But I'm ready now....

              just need to install my Wall Charger.
               
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                Great sleuthing! Love the new design -- both beautiful and practical. Totally nailed it.

                Had the same thought that this supercharger now becomes a prime scouting spot for Model 3s in the Boston area. If I worked downtown, I'd probably find myself eating at the Pru a lot over the next couple of months...

                EDIT: You're probably already aware, but Fred referenced you and your footage in the most recent Electrek article on urban superchargers.
                 
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                  I work in the West End.....accessible quickly by the T, but I'd be closer to Cambridge or Charlestown once those open.
                   
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                    I work in Natick, so if the mysterious Natick supercharger does indeed open before the "end of 2017", I'll dutifully start stalking that location. (Guessing somewhere in the mall parking complex, which seems to be under heavy construction of late...)

                    I'll be curious to see whether they go with full-size stalls, or the sleeker "urban" style shown above. Given how cramped the lots and garages are, the latter would make a lot of sense. And if Tesla installs them next to the existing Chargepeoint chargers (like they did in the Pru), then they would be located right next to the food court entrance. The other location that makes (more?) sense is the part of the Macys garage where Tesla already parks (and charges) their test-drive fleet...

                    I may have to swing by on my way home to see if there are any indicators.
                     
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                      So, this is half the rate of current superchargers. I'm going to say that the predictability is worth the slower speed tradeoff. If I'm parked at one of these chargers, I'd like to know that I have exactly X minutes to go shopping or eat dinner before I need to worry about moving my car to avoid any "staying too long" penalty.
                       
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                        #16 JWardell, Sep 11, 2017
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                        These chargers are no doubt less expensive for Tesla to make than the big light-up SCs, but it's possible they're less outdoor rated and will be used inside covered parking garages. I know from my test drive that Tesla just has a bunch of UWCs shoddily installed in one of the garages for their fleet, it will look a lot more slick if they're replaced with these new urban superchargers.

                        Also to answer @Kennethbokor and anyone else's questions, at the end of the video is the security robot that was waiting for me when I got out of the elevator. No idea if there's really a little man inside R2D2 style!
                        http://mashable.com/2017/07/17/security-robot-drowns/#rE_4YGzxfPqM

                        Here is the one photo I took, from about the same location as the press photo:

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                          Awesome and awesome!
                           
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                            They added a future supercharger to my city. So instead of having 4 locations within 5 miles, now.i also have 1 within 1 mile.

                            Trying to figure out where it'll go will be fun. There is a supermarket with underground parking that is rarely anywhere close to full. That would be a great place for it. There is a Starbucks and a few restaurants as well.

                            I feel like I'd almost never fully charge locally. But a 10 minute charge while getting a coffee giving me around 55 miles would be perfect.
                             
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                            Remember, the future markers are centered on the city or neighborhood, not on the actual future location, so don’t take the markers’ location too seriously.
                             
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                              Right. The city is pretty small so no matter where it is ill be close. There's no malls and since they don't usually just put them in an open lot there really aren't a lot of Places they can go.
                               
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