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    Just got an email from my local Tesla Service Center to come compare S, X, and 3 in person "soon". They might not be anti-selling 3 as hard, but they are still selling S and X, that's for sure:

    "I just wanted to send you a quick email regarding the Model 3.

    Tesla Dublin may be hosting an event soon which will allow you to compare the Model S, X, and 3 side by side. If you are interested in attending, simply reply to this email and we will keep you informed.

    After Tesla released exciting details about the Model 3 on Friday, many people are discovering that our Model S and X host more standard features as well as a more impressive range and acceleration time. Even with our new model 3 hitting the streets, Model S and X continue to be our flagship vehicles packed with the most value. If you are more interested in seeing a price, incentive, and size comparison for the Model 3 and our S and X, please let me know.

    Look forward to seeing you in our showroom soon!"
     
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      I wonder how quickly that sort of thing moves east. That's perhaps the biggest (or only) unknown left. Will I have configured my car and locked in $3,500 as a non-refundable deposit before ever seeing or driving the vehicle...
       
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        Cool news ..I really want to actually see the vehicle before placing the order...I believe I'm number 220000 before the vehicle gets delivered so I'm hopeful I can see the vehicle before deciding on color and options..



        What are the textile seats like? Will they be microsuede or actual fabric? Who knows...would be nice to know before I order...

        Same for the colors of the exterior..

        Wheels In Person would be good to see..

        Thanks for the heads up
         
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        It sounds very much like this invite has been set up as a clear anti-sell event. Most likely all of the near future Model 3 showroom reveals will be very carefully scripted as antisell comparisons.

        "Here's the Model 3. Fully loaded it's over $65k and you won't get it for over 1 1/2 years and there will be no federal tax credit but look at this gorgeous Models S with more features and is faster and starts at $70k AND the $7500 tax credit is still in effect AND if you use a referral code you get ANOTHER $1k off AND Free lifetime supercharging AND you can get it now!"

        It can be a very convincing argument especially when the cars are side by side and showroom impulseiveness kicks in and you don't want to wait 18 months.
         
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          Compelling argument to purchase a model S but again for many the size is a factor...

          The S is beautiful and clearly a superior vehicle....but it's huge..I think it's as long as a Chevy Tahoe...
           
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          There are about 120 showrooms of various sizes in the US and Canada. Seems like it wouldn't be too hard to have one Model 3 for each of them sometime within the next couple months. At least that's my hope (full disclosure, I'm on the east coast). Cannot wait to see one in person!
           
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            Agree it's an upsell opportunity for Tesla. That said, the most you can spend right now on Model 3 is $59,500.

            The base Model S with paint and leather seats is $75,000. Make it $80,000 if you want sub zero and premium sound. Make it $88,000 if you want EAP and FSD (which is included in the Model 3 price above).

            The car has better performance, but 61 miles less range.

            $28,500 difference is not insignificant.
             
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              and I would think anyone considering the $59,500 version of the Model 3 would not be happy with the $75,000 version of the Model S - otherwise, they would be happy instead considering the $35,000 Model 3.
               
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                Exactly!! I think the upsell opportunity is not really there. No one that wants a loaded Model 3 will take a base Model S.
                 
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                  at least no one that has their head screwed on tightly when they go to this event. I am sure there will be those that get carried away and end up signing up for an S before they think it thru (I'm going to go out on a limb and guess those will be guys ;) )
                   
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                    The dealers have a ton of off lease model S models, the discounts on the base base model S can make the model S almost reachable along with some ridiculous low interest long range car payments...

                    A lot of people live by monthly payment amounts and long term loan terms can deliver base S models to people on the line to get a model 3..

                    So if the base model S is 70 grand without paint or leather...if that's the price..and it's a grand off for recommendation and they offer ridiculous .99 percent financing for 84 months..with 20 percent down...the monthly on the model S is probably pretty low after the federal and state tax incentives...and they get it now...

                    I could,see a decent percentage of people moving to the model S...and it's a win win effort for tesla distribution...

                    The party conversation of consumers will spread the discussion and bring in quite a few people who haven't yet decided on electric vehicles...

                    Teslas in a great position...for free marketing
                     
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                      Your numbers used to be accurate but there has since been a change in the S configurator. Subzero and premium sound are no longer options and included with the premium package. They are bundled with the premium package. Just as there are few choices on M3, there are fewer choices with MS/MX. I would argue that a base MS is similarly optioned to the M3 premium upgrade with many extra unavailable options such as auto wipers, driver display, AM radio, power trunk, turning lights.
                       
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                        That is what happens at traditional car dealerships after all....

                        The classic we don't have exactly what you're looking for, but what about this....?
                         
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                          Yes -- sorry I should have been more clear. I counted the $5,000 for premium and just mentioned a few of the components contained within.

                          Point being if you've configured a $59,500 Model 3, you will most assuredly want those features in a Model S.
                           
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                            In the new configurations, the price REALLY ISN'T THAT FAR OFF. Fully loaded M3 with paint and wheels and EAP at $59,500. Base MS with paint and seat upgrade (Tesla no longer uses leather) and EAP is $75,800. $1000 off with referral fee. $7500 off for tax credit. As far as I can see, The base MS you only miss out on rear heated seats but otherwise has all the other M3 Premium features plus some.
                             
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                            It is interesting that this is happening in the Bay Area of CA, not far from the factory. For sure the easiest place to do it. I wonder if it will be someone's personal M3. The invitation is going to folks who may well have a low M3 reservation numbers. Those are the folks least likely to upsell at this point since they are not that far from M3 delivery. Obviously, folks who come to the event who are not early reservers are good candidates.

                            I'd love to have this event at my local dealer in Seaside, CA.

                            This event would potentially be most effective if they tried it on the US East Coast or even in Canada, where folks are seeing dates that are still a year away. I wonder if there is a plan?
                             
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                            as for another $16k more... maybe that isn't that much for a broke doctor, but is for many of the rest of us ;)
                             
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                              But it isn't $16k more. It's $7000 more and you get free supercharging. And if you buy an inventory car, Many are listed on EV-CPO for another $1000 off so it's more like $6000 more than the loaded M3. Oops. Sorry. My calculations didn't include the FSD so it's like $9000 difference. Even for a broke doctor with half a million dollars in student loan debt and living in a 60 year old house, I think it's worth considering to move up a to a whole different class of car.o_O
                               
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                                Wait what?

                                Base MS is $70k
                                Paint is $1k
                                Upgraded seats $5k
                                Premium is $5k
                                EAP is $5k
                                FSD is $3k

                                That's $89k. Where did you get $75,800?
                                 
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                                  You're right. My numbers were off a little. I think I didn't check a box.
                                  Using their configurator:
                                  Base MS is $69.5k
                                  Paint is $1k
                                  Upgraded seats $3.3k
                                  Premium is not equivalent to Model 3 - HEPA filter/Subzero/XM radio don't apply to M3
                                  EAP is $5k
                                  FSD is $3k
                                  Total is $81.8k
                                  minus $7500 Tax Credit.
                                  minus $1k referral.
                                  Total for custom order MS would be $73.3. Differential is $13,800.

                                  Less compelling but should still be considered by anyone that is considering a fully loaded M3 and is ordering now and will miss any tax credit. For those that were smart enough to get in line early and will get the credit, the jump to an MS doesn't justify the price difference.

                                  For me, I'm likely waiting for the standard range with Premium so I'll be at $40k minus $7500 Fed Tax Credit minus $2500 NY tax credit so hopefully I'll be paying $30k each. It's like getting 2 for 1.
                                   
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