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Tesla Model X crashes into building at high speed, owner claims it accelerated on its own

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    Following a recent few accidents involving Tesla’s Autopilot, mainly one with the ‘Summon’ feature and another one involving ‘TACC’ (two features of the Autopilot systems), the automaker’s semi-autonomous system has been under scrutiny, and it looks like this latest accident is not going to help its cause.

    A Model X owner claims that his week old SUV accelerated on its own in a parking lot and autonomously crashed into a building at high-speed in Irvine, California. more…

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    Every day someone drives thru a 7-11 claiming they have no idea how it happened "all of the sudden the car jumped forward". IMO, just like all those ICE cars parked in the middle of the candy isle, I would be absolutely amazed if this was not driver error. And from the tone of the owner's account, and how he references his wife, I assume this is an older couple. (also who normally end up in the candy isle).
     
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    What seems odd to me from the account is that it stopped driving forward when it hit the building. If it was malfunctioning, why would the wheels stop spinning?
     
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    Automatic Emergency Braking took over at that point?

    But yeah, this one seems peculiar.
     
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    If automatic braking was working, why did it hit the building?

    Just saying!

    This whole thing sounds like a fraud to me.
     
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    Why would he want anyone experiencing similar behaviors to contact him directly? Looking for a class action suit? Seems like a money grab attempt to me.

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    As I discovered recently, AEB is not meant to prevent a collision, it is only supposed to lower speeds if it detects that an impact is imminent.

    Anyhow, I'm guessing that Tesla will once again provide a comment backed by vehicle data now that the owner has gone public with an accusation.
     
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    Article has been updated.

    Tesla looked at the logs and the driver did indeed stomp on the accelerator. Autopilot was not engaged.

    100% driver error.
     
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      For the retort ability alone, I love that Tesla has access to these logs!
       
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      Can you imagine, a similar incident in 80's almost put Audi out of business, no car logs to back them up. Thank goodness logs exist, or could have been a public relations disaster.
       
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        I would love it even more if Tesla would provide access to the logs to the owners as well. I understand that this is a useful tool to combat people blaming the car for their own mistakes. But I would find it to be much more trustworthy if the users had equal access to the data.

        For instance, a Tesla log says that the accelerator pedal was at 100%. Did it get there gradually, or was it an instantaneous jump? If the latter, then I would suspect the vehicle at fault.
         
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        Why would you suspect the vehicle to be at fault if it was instantaneous? If they panicked trying to stop and hit the accelerator thinking it was the brake it would be instantaneous. Also, (not trying to say the operator was), but if they had malicious intent trying to get a big settlement out of Tesla then they would slam the accelerator to get maximum damage. Again, I am not insinuating that the operator had malicious intent here, just that it is a possibility.

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        There was a comment made in one of the Electrek stories, can't remember if it was the original or the follow up, that gave instructions on how to download the logs to a thumb drive, but didn't say if you could get useful info from them or if all coded.

        There was a woman also making a lot of very defensive comments "backing up the driver" that I wondered if it was the driver...
         
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          Because it takes several tens of milliseconds to physically push down an accelerator, even if you try to stomp on it as quickly as possible.

          Anyhow, not saying that this is what happened, just that I don't have enough data myself to be more than 98% confident that this was just driver error. ;)
           

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