T'was the night before the reveal

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Electrek is claiming the first reliable leak about Model 3 mentions range, performance and design.

http://electrek.co/2016/03/30/tesla-model-3-specs/

As with any rumour, take it with a grain of salt however much like Apple products, leaks happen closer to product announcements so this could very well be real.

We will know more tomorrow for sure.

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Well, the reveal is done and based on the shape of the car in the above picture, it really was the Model 3. So what are your thoughts?

Personally I love everything about the car. The only slight disappointment is that I was hoping for a lift back instead of the typical trunk lid.

Lots of test drive videos to watch





 
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't was 5 years before the reveal... ;)

Since not all of you may be on Twitter, thought I would give credit to our very own @Kennethbokor for somehow unearthing (pun intended... :D) this particularly precious 6 year old picture!! Well done, Kenneth!!

 

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Complementary tweet! Thanks, Kenneth!

 

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Thanks for sharing this.
On another note,the trunk looks different.:D
 

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This clay model has mysterious sensors.
 

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The clay model has unlimited range, too. Well, as long as someone doesn't run over the extension cord.......
 

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Check it out: zero panel gaps.
 

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Referring to Electrek's article .... Unless something changes ...... I may be priced (as well as optioned) out of the M3 market. I have no interest in < 4 second acceleration; I have no interest in a $50-60K car; and I have no interest in a "premium" vehicle with unknown accessories that I doubt I would be interested in as well.
But I am interested in range. I really need >250 miles .... 270 would be preferred. So if the range is only available with all the pricey options .... I may have to pass. I'll keep my reservation in place, however, it wouldn't be earning any interest in the bank anyway.
Fortunately, by the time my order comes up (calculated at early 2019) all this will have been sorted out, and we'll know a lot more than we know now.
Terribly excited .... yet a little disappointed (not in the M3, but as it pertains to me and my purchase).
 

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Referring to Electrek's article .... Unless something changes ...... I may be priced (as well as optioned) out of the M3 market. I have no interest in < 4 second acceleration; I have no interest in a $50-60K car; and I have no interest in a "premium" vehicle with unknown accessories that I doubt I would be interested in as well.
But I am interested in range. I really need >250 miles .... 270 would be preferred. So if the range is only available with all the pricey options .... I may have to pass. I'll keep my reservation in place, however, it wouldn't be earning any interest in the bank anyway.
Fortunately, by the time my order comes up (calculated at early 2019) all this will have been sorted out, and we'll know a lot more than we know now.
Terribly excited .... yet a little disappointed (not in the M3, but as it pertains to me and my purchase).
At the base price, you should expect 215+ miles of range. Anything much above that you should be prepared to pay extra for. For maximum range you also need dual motors and the larger battery pack, again, more money. The 0-60 performance boost is just a side effect of the dual motors. Nobody would force you to use full throttle. EM predicted the average M3 to cost $42K. I doubt you'll get dual motors and the large battery pack at that price, but we can always hope. I predict closer to $50K for what you're looking for, which just happens to be what I'm looking for as well, although I will appreciate the 0-60 boost. :D
 

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Referring to Electrek's article .... Unless something changes ...... I may be priced (as well as optioned) out of the M3 market. I have no interest in < 4 second acceleration; I have no interest in a $50-60K car; and I have no interest in a "premium" vehicle with unknown accessories that I doubt I would be interested in as well.
But I am interested in range. I really need >250 miles .... 270 would be preferred. So if the range is only available with all the pricey options .... I may have to pass. I'll keep my reservation in place, however, it wouldn't be earning any interest in the bank anyway.
Fortunately, by the time my order comes up (calculated at early 2019) all this will have been sorted out, and we'll know a lot more than we know now.
Terribly excited .... yet a little disappointed (not in the M3, but as it pertains to me and my purchase).
I'm with you on everything except range. The base battery and corresponding range work fine for me. I am not in the market for a car at $50k or more. Thankfully, I expect to be just far enough back in the production order to be able to make that choice.

I am concerned deeply that by doing packages of options instead of ala carte, I may not be able to get what I want without a lot of unwanted tag-along "features.
 
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Thank you SSonnentag and Mark C .... I appreciate your comments.
I have known from the get-go that range would be a problem for me .... I'll just wait and see how it plays out.

For personal reasons, I am interested in a base M3 .... but with extended range. Simple as that. And, I know that I will need to pay extra for that, which I am willing to do.

But I am unwilling to pay for features that I do not want, need and would not use. I can name numerous items that I have no use for ... that I do not buy them just to have them available. If a larger battery is bundled in a $50-60K package with all sorts of other features that are useless to me, .... then I will not be driving an M3. Again .... simple as that.

I'm hopeful that will not be the case. We shall see. So, until my number comes up in late 2018 or early 2019. I'll just keep reading, evaluating others experiences, and admiring an absolutely beautiful vehicle. Make no mistake .... I want one .... but there is a limit.

P.S. - (I started to just leave it there) ..... In the west, destinations are far apart. I have no need for a $35K city car. Tesla designs an absolutely beautiful, ideal sized, comfortable, innovative car that begs to be on the road .... But 215 miles (Tesla website) wont's get me to the next sizable city.
 
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I think you'll be surprised at how little options there will be on the Model 3. Not that there's a lot on Model s to begin with.

You should absolutely be able to get a base Model 3 and just upgrade the battery. However keep in mind the battery is the most expensive option so there's no way you'll be paying $35K for that car.

Let's see what they offer once orders open up but Tesla has been pretty vocal about only offering basic options to begin with and I've been told larger packs are first. Base models will follow in a few months after launch
 

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TrevP - Like the two replies above .... thank you. I appreciate your comment and taking the time to write.

Rest assured .... I do not expect a $35K EV to have the range I seek.
I just hope a larger battery can be added without it being part of a very costly "package" that includes things I do not want.

That is the way Toyota (an many other manufacturers) does it.
 

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TrevP - Like the two replies above .... thank you. I appreciate your comment and taking the time to write.

Rest assured .... I do not expect a $35K EV to have the range I seek.
I just hope a larger battery can be added without it being part of a very costly "package" that includes things I do not want.

That's the way Toyota (& many other manufacturers) does it.
@mt.west.ev , to add a little positive spin to this exchange, remember there is a '+' after the 215 miles range promise for the smaller battery... ;)
I am on record for having said many times that we could hope for a base @ 240... that may not be enough to scratch your itch yet that would still be >10% better!! :)
 
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But 215 miles (Tesla website) wont's get me to the next sizable city.
By late 2018 the EV charging infrastructure may support your travels on a 230ish mile range.

I think we are counting on the base range to beat/match the 238 mile range of the bolt. The small pack may be sufficient, and hopefully an ala-cart option by that time.
 

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't was 5 years before the reveal... ;)

Since not all of you may be on Twitter, thought I would give credit to our very own @Kennethbokor for somehow unearthing (pun intended... :D) this particularly precious 6 year old picture!! Well done, Kenneth!!

This realisation, that designing Model 3 was already well under way in 2010/2011, makes all the speculation ridiculous about significant changes in the design between the first release on March 31 an now (with a pens down on June 1 2016).
What was changed, is the ABS plastic front fender a little bit and possibly the inside rim of the trunk. Maybe minor points of the interior. That's all. The car we will be getting is effectively the car which was presented on March 31.

Seeing this clay model makes me wonder something else. May we also have seen a clay model of Model Y somewhere? That would be nice!
 
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May we also have seen a clay model of Model Y somewhere?
I still think that this picture might be showing a Model Y prototype (or clay model) under the tarp, with one falcon-wing door partially raised.
 

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I still think that this picture might be showing a Model Y prototype (or clay model) under the tarp, with one falcon-wing door partially raised.
I don't think so @garsh. Yes it's a clay model, but when you enlarge it looks very uneven. It's probably an unfinished form. Could be any. 3, Y, Roadster 2, pickup... I also know that designers sometimes make two different versions in one model. Left version 1, right version 2. Even that doesn't seem to be the case here. Leaves: unfinished.

More interesting is the model to the right of that. Is that prototype of Model S? This being 2010/2011. Or is it Roadster 2?It's very flat.
Small clay model behind pillar certainly seems to be MS.