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Last week, when Elon revealed the Model 3, he promised the following:

5 star safety ratings
Autopilot safety features
Supercharger access

Go check out the Model 3 page today. It walks all of those things back.

It says the car will be safe
It will have autopilot hardware
And it will be supercharger capable

Is this a bait and switch? Or did the huge preorder numbers make them walk back the quality?
 

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I think they're just trying to be more careful with the language.

For the safety rating, they haven't finished testing it yet. I'm sure they really will attempt to get 5 star in every category, but it feels like hubris to advertise that fact before actually achieving the rating. In fact, I wonder if the NHTSA made them remove that claim for now.

Autopilot "safety features" is a rather vague term. It's not very specific, but I assume it refers to automatic braking and lane departure warnings, since implementing them would make use of the same hardware used for autopilot. Up until now, those features were never referred to as part of autopilot itself. In fact, if you go configure a Model S right now, two of the standard features are listed as "automatic emergency braking" and "lane departure warning". I expect the same features to come standard on the Model 3, despite the change in language.

The supercharging comments have been vague from the start. The consensus seems to be that every car will come with the hardware required to use superchargers, but that you'll probably need to pay an upgrade fee to actually be able to use them. The low end Model S used to have supercharging as an add-on option, so Tesla had this model in the past.
 

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Looks like a few more tweaks have been made to the wording. It now says:
  • Designed to achieve
    5-Star Safety Rating
  • Autopilot Hardware
  • Supercharging
 

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I'm more than willing to pay extra for Autopilot and Supercharging. I understand Tesla is not a charity and needs to make a profit even on the much lower priced Model 3...
 

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Looks like a few more tweaks have been made to the wording. It now says:
  • Designed to achieve
    5-Star Safety Rating
  • Autopilot Hardware
  • Supercharging
Yes, I noticed the changes also, as did most of the media.
The first listings were put up, and the attorneys were all over it. They couldn't / can't make the 5 Star safety claim until it is tested and those results are released. Once the NHTSA releases the rating, after testing, Elon will be happy to make it public.
The rest is all semantics, but the full intention was to say that SC and Autopilot tech hardware will be onboard. As for how much is included in the base, They won't be able to make full statements on the SC paid vs included until all the numbers are crunched.