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Discussion in 'Tech Talk' started by SoFlaModel3, Aug 30, 2017.

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Will you stop carrying keys?

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  3. Keys.... haven't carried those for a while now

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  1. SoFlaModel3

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    Looking down at my keychain I see the following....

    1. Car key
    2. House key
    3. Bathroom key (work)
    4. File cabinent key (work)
    So we know #1 is gone

    #3 is not necessary for me -- I can just keep it on my desk

    #4 is not necessary for me -- I don't keep anything valuable at work / have no security concerns at work. We have an open floor plan and finger print readers to get in so no actual work key.

    Now we circle back to #2. Where am I going to keep 1 key? By itself, it will be easy to lose as it can fall out of my pocket undetected. I don't know how I feel about a smart key for the house even though that may be the answer. I recently spent a lot of money to change my front door and inside garage door lock to Medeco locks though, so I'm not inclined to spend more on locks now.

    So what say you guys? What will you do when the car key in your life is no more?
     
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      #2 SSonnentag, Aug 30, 2017
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      Keys will be carried by the car instead of my me. I don't need a key to get into my work, house, RV, shed, etc. The only key I carry now is the car FOB. Good riddance to keys and FOBS.

      I keep keys in my car for the mailbox and padlocks. Otherwise all my keys are backups for when my electronic locks fail for some reason.
       
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        Just put a smart lock on the front door of the house, only reason for keys will be if I'm driving the truck...
         
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          Pretty much the only thing I carry with me outside of the car the the car key. So no more keys for me!
          I use the garage as my entry point into my house and I've got an app that can open it remotely or a keypad hidden next to the door as well. The garage door has a battery backup so I don't even need to worry in a power outage.

          The only other key I use normally is the mailbox key, but it sits in the car cupholder now and I don't see that changing.
           
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            About a year ago, I converted all of my locks to smart locks, so I've been carrying around only a key fob lately. With the Model 3, I look forward to not having a key fob at all!

            Next up, hopefully Apple Pay / Android Pay will continue to take off so I can eliminate my wallet. Maybe 5 years down the road? Only thing that probably won't go electronic for a while is the driver's license.
             
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              I hate keys! Bulky things, annoying to carry around, and always afraid of losing them! The ever-growing car fobs are the worst. I can't wait to be rid of the largest one!

              I use a combination lock for my house, so that's one I never need to carry. http://amzn.to/2vKn75q

              Then I put each key on a pocket clip so I only take what I need when I need it. It stays securely clipped to the top of my pocket and stays suspended above my wallet so it's not creating bulk at the bottom. This is thanks to the P7 Suspension Clip http://amzn.to/2wiR7ZV

              So if I go out for the evening, I have no keys to drunkenly lose. Yay!
              I drove to work today, so I have two clips on me, boo:

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                No can do. I have an office door key, house key (my wife draws the line at allowing me to install smart locks), and key for my parents' home in case of emergencies.
                 
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                  I completely stopped carrying around keys once I got a Kevo for my front door. The only thing I've been carrying around for the past year is a key fob. When I found out my model 3 wouldn't require one, I was jumping for joy! No more keys for me!!! I put a backup house key in my wallet just in case, but I've never had to use it. :)
                   
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                    I hate how rental car companies decide to put two sets of keys and fobs on a single key ring for you to carry around.
                    Seriously, why do they do this???
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                      @garsh thanks for reminding me about this, and making my blood boil again! Entire vacations have been ruined by all that crap in my pocket!
                       
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                        I've been known to rip apart the key ring and leave one of the keys in the hotel on some of my trips. The rental car companies aren't thrilled about it, but really what are they gonna do?
                         
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                          I wouldn't dare encourage you to go against the wife's wishes, but if you get a smart lock like the Kevo, you can still use a key on it and can even rekey the lock to use your current key! Not sure what your wife's reservations about it are, but you could basically make it seem like nothing changed except it'll have a little light up ring around the outside of it. If the wife still wants to use her physical key, have at it. My wife LOVES our new lock. No more fumbling with keys, just touch the deadbolt with the phone in your pocket and done deal.
                           
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                            They can charge you $300+ as many have pointed out they will do if I lose a key

                            I jump on every gadget and tech, but not smart locks. I really don't want the lock to my house to be dependent on my phone, or on software with bugs, or backdoors because they are using some crappy TCP stack that hackers find their way into.
                            I like a simple combo deadbolt because, first you can still use a key (and those Kwikset ones are easily re-keyed), second I don't need anything but my finger and memory, third I can easily give that code to someone who unexpectedly needs to get in, over a phone call or text, and finally I can easily change that combo when I don't want someone to get in anymore.
                             
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                              yea, $300 if you lose a key, but just for ripping apart the key ring, no way.

                              Honestly, as a software and cyber security nut (going to a computer security convention this weekend) I'd tend to agree with you. The reality though is that if someone wants to get into your house, your little deadbolt isn't going to stop them. The only purpose of a door lock is to keep honest people out. A real thief isn't going to think twice about just throwing a rock through your window. Someone that's savvy enough to hack your deadbolt isn't going to have a challenge picking your locks.

                              Most of the benefits of combo locks that you mention are significantly better with smart locks. 1) The Kevo is a Kiwkset lock that can be re-keyed and you can still use a real key as a backup. 2) When would I ever leave home without my phone? Don't even need my finger. I could have my phone in my pocket and touch the lock with my elbow and it'd still open! :) 3) Giving people access and taking it away is as easy as sending them an email! I can actually go a step further and give people access only between certain hours on certain days. It's pretty awesome!
                               
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                                Since I don't own S or X, what do you use for valet parking key?

                                Do you hand them one of the cards? Clearly not going to hand them your smartphone.
                                 
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                                The S/X still have keyfobs. I can only assume that you would hand over the card to the valet. I'm sure this is just the first of many cars that will eventually go keyless, so valets are going to have to create a new system for cards rather than key rings. I guess some day when it becomes really common place you'll probably be able to send the valet approval to access your car with their phone for a short time.
                                 
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                                  For S/X you hand over the key and put the car in valet mode.

                                  For 3 you'll do the same with the keycard.

                                  EDIT: and for me no valet is ever driving the car.
                                   
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                                    They do that so all of the keys stay with the car. Since the cars can be used for one way trips they can end up very far the original location and the rental companies don't want to have to track down the extra keys when they go to re-sell the car after 12K miles.

                                    I agree it's really annoying though.
                                     
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                                      Gonna change bike lock to combo and get smart locks (looking for one with Bluetooth LE and combo but no keyhole) for the house, garage, and main condo door (association wants to go that way) so I can be keyless.
                                       
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                                      (First post ever here)

                                      This makes me sad, kinda. I only have two keys (house and my folks house - though I could probably do without that one). I like having my keys which is hooked on my carabiner that I've had for like 10 years.

                                      I'm not sure how I'm going to carry the FOB (will this be okay to carry in a wallet - if it fits?) and I don't like using my phone because I never have bluetooth on.

                                      IDK, minor thing I suppose overall, but mixed feelings.
                                       
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