Why do I see so many Model 3's with reverse rake (front higher than back)?

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I've noticed that on some of the cars that have installed lowering springs.

I haven't noticed anything like that for cars with stock suspensions.
 

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Hummmmm. I don’t see it on mine
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Is there a picture of one with this phenomena? I don't think I've see it on any, including mine.
 

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It almost looks like they have 20 bags of cement in the trunk. My car has a much higher clearence over the back tires than that one. Much like Luxman's picture above.
 

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It almost looks like they have 20 bags of cement in the trunk. My car has a much higher clearence over the back tires than that one. Much like Luxman's picture above.
I should clarify - that car has the Unplugged Performance lowering springs installed.
But it appears to my eyes that the rear is lowered a little too much compared to the front.
 

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I agree, maybe drop the front 2 inches. It seems off-balance.
 

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Noticing a lot of cars in here with the front higher than the back?
My negative rake drives me (OCD) crazy. I would have thought that unplugged would have rectified this situation. I am just going to lower the front approx 3/4” to give me a nominal 1/2” rake. The (20) concrete bags in the the trunk look is just not for me. I much prefer the (5) concrete bags in the frunk look.:cool:
 
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I've seen it on a local stock model 3 too, but the pictures posted in here look great.

Excluding the Blue unplugged lowered one.
 

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The front naturally has more gap than the rear stock. Mine is five fingers in the front, four fingers in the rear. I think the UP moderate springs just exacerbates the squatting look since the rear comes so close to the tire.
 
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Hummmmm. I don’t see it on mine
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Is this factory suspension? If so is it the early/stiffer suspension? This is the most even I’ve seen front/rear on a model 3....

I agree with OP, the front is too high in both stock suspension and the UP moderate springs. From all the pictures I’ve seen the UP springs actually drop the car more in the rear. I suspect there is something wrong with the first batch which will need to be corrected with their manufacturer.

Really hoping the forthcoming Eibach springs resolve this issue.
 

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Is this factory suspension? If so is it the early/stiffer suspension? This is the most even I’ve seen front/rear on a model 3....

I agree with OP, the front is too high in both stock suspension and the UP moderate springs. From all the pictures I’ve seen the UP springs actually drop the car more in the rear. I suspect there is something wrong with the first batch which will need to be corrected with their manufacturer.

Really hoping the forthcoming Eibach springs resolve this issue.
Yes, this is factory suspension. Car was made in February so it is the new softer springs. This is the most what? There isn't any rake to my car. It sits pretty level like all the 3s I've seen. The only place I have seen that are when people are trying to lower them with the UP springs
 
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Yes, this is factory suspension. Car was made in February so it is the new softer springs. This is the most what? There isn't any rake to my car. It sits pretty level like all the 3s I've seen. The only place I have seen that are when people are trying to lower them with the UP springs
The UP lowering springs make it worse, but the front fender gap is higher than the rear on most Model 3's I've seen, including mine on stock suspension. Maybe it's just the angle your car is on in that photo.

Mine is like @amoney805 said – four finger gap in the rear and five in the front. Not huge but noticeable. This is not uncommon amongst four-door sedans, but it's definitely not the clean sporty look I would expect from a 50k "luxury" sedan á la BMW 3-Series.
 

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The UP lowering springs make it worse, but the front fender gap is higher than the rear on most Model 3's I've seen, including mine on stock suspension. Maybe it's just the angle your car is on in that photo.

Mine is like @amoney805 said – four finger gap in the rear and five in the front. Not huge but noticeable. This is not uncommon amongst four-door sedans, but it's definitely not the clean sporty look I would expect from a 50k "luxury" sedan á la BMW 3-Series.
I went and measured the wheel gap. It’s about 1/2” higher in the front. But I am looking at the wheelbase. Meaning I am looking at the level of the bottom of the car. It measures about 1/4” higher in the front then the back at the jack points. So IMO the car is pretty level.
But the look is in the eye of the beholder and I think it looks fine and really don’t see the “rake”. Maybe Franz should have made the front fenders extend down more o_O
 
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OOooh. I hate rear-rake! Not just aesthetically, but because I carry a lot of cargo in the back, and need it as high as possible to start with! (but yeah... definitely aesthetically as well) This, of course, is why I wanted SAS... but doesn't look like it'll be available anywhere near a reasonable time. Anybody put air bags on the back of one of these to help with cargo-hauling-squat?
 

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The UP lowering springs make it worse, but the front fender gap is higher than the rear on most Model 3's I've seen, including mine on stock suspension. Maybe it's just the angle your car is on in that photo.

Mine is like @amoney805 said – four finger gap in the rear and five in the front. Not huge but noticeable. This is not uncommon amongst four-door sedans, but it's definitely not the clean sporty look I would expect from a 50k "luxury" sedan á la BMW 3-Series.
I've been lurking between here and teslamotorclub and reddit trying to sort out how I'm going to make my (future) Model 3 look less frumpy. I think you nailed it, it's not an uncommon gap on a sedan, but it's not really a gap that says sporty 50k+ car. The wheel gap from factory currently looks far too much like humdrum Toyota Camry than a 4.5s 0-60 sports sedan.

I think a big part of it is how inset the wheels are. I've never had to bother with spacers before and I would love to avoid having to deal with them, but I think bringing the wheels out even 10-15mm would really help to make them "pop" more and be more inline with a sports sedan not a family sedan.
 

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Unsure if I am going to upgrade at this time so I am holding off on cutting 1/2 coil from the top, and 1/2 coil from the bottom of the front springs. IMO, this should still keep enough of the reduced diameter coil spring to properly seat in the pocket and stay within the original design parameter. I am hoping this will give me the ~3/4” drop I seek in the front and save me $350.